tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post6538826803819121301..comments2023-11-02T03:14:55.334-05:00Comments on The Bratton Report: What is a "real man"?Mike Brattonhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comBlogger54125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-6600553833212204222007-04-21T12:48:00.000-05:002007-04-21T12:48:00.000-05:00all2jesus said... Hey Mike,So Bellevue claims the ...<I>all2jesus said... <BR/>Hey Mike,<BR/><BR/>So Bellevue claims the services are copyrighted, thus making any videos taken "bootleg." Very clever.</I><BR/><BR/>It's not a claim, and it's not overwhelmingly clever. It's just a fact. What do you call it when someone smuggles a video camera into an event and videotapes the event without consent?<BR/><BR/><I>All one must do to avoid embarrassing replays of one's faux pas du jour is copyright oneself. </I><BR/><BR/>The only folks who could be embarrassed by the video are those contrarians who botched their opportunity to have a sober, measured discussion of things that supposedly concern them.<BR/><BR/><I>Erstwhile Senator John Ford and his counsel would do well to take note and put the FBI on notice: "Hey you (expletive)s, I'm copyrighted!" <BR/><BR/>Scoundrels everywhere, rejoice. </I><BR/><BR/>No doubt you realized how inapplicable your analogy was before you typed it out, so I'm at a loss to understand why you went ahead with it.<BR/><BR/>On the "Your point is not well taken" thread, we're having a conversation about copyright. If you'd like to join us, by all means do so.<BR/><BR/>--MikeMike Brattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-84273465914714178192007-04-19T20:53:00.000-05:002007-04-19T20:53:00.000-05:00Hey Mike,So Bellevue claims the services are copyr...Hey Mike,<BR/><BR/>So Bellevue claims the services are copyrighted, thus making any videos taken "bootleg." Very clever. All one must do to avoid embarrassing replays of one's faux pas du jour is copyright oneself. Erstwhile Senator John Ford and his counsel would do well to take note and put the FBI on notice: "Hey you (expletive)s, I'm copyrighted!" <BR/><BR/>Scoundrels everywhere, rejoice.all2jesushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15878281155203721893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-9657185153766421182007-04-16T12:10:00.000-05:002007-04-16T12:10:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.SpringerSpanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04938621793399675364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-2845139997758427322007-04-16T11:48:00.000-05:002007-04-16T11:48:00.000-05:00upside down said... ...I once challenged Mike to h...<I>upside down said... <BR/><BR/>...<BR/><BR/>I once challenged Mike to his term anti-Bellevue. But Mike, I apologize for you were right in your initial assessment and I was wrong. </I><BR/><BR/>Accepted and forgiven, of course.<BR/><BR/>And much obliged--it's important to understand a group or movement for what it is, and for the past half-year or so, their actions and rhetoric have been solidly, undeniably anti-Bellevue.<BR/><BR/>Though you're not welcome there, feel free to make yourself at home here.<BR/><BR/>--MikeMike Brattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-62843118328173915702007-04-16T11:27:00.000-05:002007-04-16T11:27:00.000-05:00I find it interesting that the NBBCOF has mention ...I find it interesting that the NBBCOF has mention of MD being fired while the person who prayer at the 11:00 service asked for safety for Mark and family as they vacationed.<BR/><BR/>I find it alarming that Sickofthelies is herself a liar and can spew the most bitter and hate filled post on the blog without being checked by anyone. Those who had a 'gut check' when Steve Gaines arrived certainly don't have the 'guts' to challenge SOTL in her sinful ways.<BR/><BR/>I am disappointed that the forum operator bans all who try to bring truth and civility to the board. Yet allows slander, gossip, lies and hate to flow freely.<BR/><BR/>What does it say about a board that produces more hate than love? more lies than truth? <BR/><BR/>Yes, I've been banned for the simple reason of talking about Christ's instruction to us to "love one another" as a way of showing our love for Christ. Hmmm, this love thing just doesn't survive in a hate filled environment. For those of you who post on the other board why not ask this simple question, "Why have you banned those who bring truth to the board? Are we so afraid of having our opinions challenged that we reject anyone who doesn't march in step with us?"<BR/><BR/>I once challenged Mike to his term anti-Bellevue. But Mike, I apologize for you were right in your initial assessment and I was wrong. They truly are a group of anti-Bellevue folks. They joy in any perceived loss which now happens at Bellevue. They use membership and staff departures as their score keeping measures. Maybe it is time that those who have moved on to go about building up there current fellowship rather than tearing down the one they left. <BR/><BR/>And the reason for my id of "upside down" was that those folks trully have things upside down.upside downhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05885270564161477732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-19458158633593109942007-04-14T21:41:00.000-05:002007-04-14T21:41:00.000-05:00(from the NBBCOF)tim coggins wrote...I couldn't ag...(from the NBBCOF)<BR/><BR/>tim coggins wrote...<I>I couldn't agree more that the men of Bellevue should strap on some knee braces and stand up. <BR/><BR/>Where are the men of Bellevue? Are the protecting their positions and names at the expensive of forsaking the church that Jesus Christ gave His life for?<BR/><BR/>Long ago, I said I would stand alone if I had to. I have continue to stand. I have not had to stand alone, but there has been little support.<BR/><BR/>One day folks will realize how strong men like Jim Haywood, Mark Sharpe, Richard Emerson and Josh Manning have been. It will probably be more than one day to late, but they will realize that these men took a stand for truth.<BR/><BR/>The rest of the men must have reasons for sitting back and waiting.</I><BR/><BR/>You know, I just don't get it. There are over 400 names on the petition, but Coggins only considers 4 (well, 5 counting himself) as 'men.' <BR/><BR/>Tim, some of us non-men of Bellevue have signed your petition, even though our families have rejected it. We've brought the conflict into our own homes because we disagree with the status quo. I've noticed that your wife has also signed, so you can't understand what that is like. <BR/><BR/>Consider this. The majority of the bloggers on the NBBCOF are women. What was it RG Lee said? "A society will never rise above the spiritual level of its women." According to him, then, the men are not the problem.<BR/><BR/>When I go to church this Sunday, I will not see Jim Haywood, Mark Sharpe, Richard Emerson and Josh Manning. These valiant 'men' have all left. Maybe I should be a 'man' and quit too, but I still have hope that God is not done with Bellevue.solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-22961239423211390102007-04-14T02:14:00.000-05:002007-04-14T02:14:00.000-05:00After my first post on this thread and Mr. Bratton...After my first post on this thread and Mr. Bratton's response, I've done some Internet searching concerning copyright law. Multiple sources indicated that copyright belongs to the "author" or "originator" of a work. When a musician performs, copyright belongs to the author/originator of the song, not to anyone making a video or audio recording of the performance. Likewise, for public speeches, sermons, meetings, etc. the author/originator is not the person or organization making a recording, but rather the individual who is speaking and being recorded. Such individuals are the only ones who can assert copyright. A person can pretty much legally record anything they want ... but publication of it requires the consent of the author/originator of whatever was recorded. Prior consent isn't required before publication, but the author/originator, and only the author/originator, has the legal right to assert copyright and to demand that the publication be terminated and/or fair market compensation be provided.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-68967326946612383602007-04-13T21:35:00.000-05:002007-04-13T21:35:00.000-05:00junk99,I see that you posted your question about u...junk99,<BR/><BR/>I see that you posted your question about unity and harmony on the other blog. I hope that some people put some serious thought into it. <BR/><BR/>Since I live in a house with 3 girls ages 9, 10, and 14 it's something I think about a lot!<BR/><BR/>At the heart of the Protestant denominations is a spirit of protest. That's how we started, and that's part of the legacy the reformers passed down to us. For about 1000 years after Christ's ascension there was 1 church. Then there were 2 for about 400-500 years. Then there were 4 as the Reformation hit. Now there are over 30,000.<BR/><BR/>I could point to a lot of signs that there is something seriously wrong with the church today, but none more persuasive than that. Why are there so many denominations?<BR/><BR/><I>And all of these base their separations on their understanding of the "plain truth of the Bible". </I><BR/><BR/>Yet the Bible says to be one, even as God the father and Jesus were one. <B>Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.</B> Ignore that, and you're ignoring scripture. <B>There is one body and one Spirit—just as you were called to one hope when you were called— one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.</B> One God, not 30000.<BR/><BR/>As far as IDC and ACT, I think we're seeing a simple truth unfolding. Their only agreement is that the leadership at BBC is bad. Any time you depend on anything other than the gospel for unity, you're setting yourself up for failure.solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-90826728005294568392007-04-13T21:24:00.000-05:002007-04-13T21:24:00.000-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-22752980061470933162007-04-13T13:57:00.000-05:002007-04-13T13:57:00.000-05:00Amy, I saw those comments by Arminius. He showed u...Amy, <BR/><BR/>I saw those comments by Arminius. He showed up during that big to do about predestination, but I suspect that he or she has been around for longer. I'm sure a more thorough search would turn up many posts with that id number.<BR/><BR/>One thing that seemed strange was that s/he would never come right out and say what their thoughts on Calvinism/Arminianism were. With that screen name you'd thing they would be emphatic, but I now believe that since the discussion was leaning toward Calvin that this person was playing 'spoiler' to elevate the arguing that was going on. <BR/><BR/>I'm going to keep an eye out for any new 'friends' who show up in the near future with a wealth of theological knowledge. I've got a feeling we haven't heard the last of this.solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-78506682500082276872007-04-13T12:47:00.000-05:002007-04-13T12:47:00.000-05:00Sol,I remember when Arminius first started posting...Sol,<BR/><BR/>I remember when Arminius first started posting on NBBCOF, right after Mike Bratton was kicked off the blog, he made comments to bait people, IMHO. One post he asked if anyone had heard about a blog re:BBC that a " guy named Mike" did, and he asked a couple of posters things like, "Do you read MB's blog?" Someone even wondered if he was Mike Bratton. One wise poster correctly responded, if Mike ever came back,he wouldn't be anonymous!Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16166259185845126345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-11444499021552351312007-04-13T10:57:00.000-05:002007-04-13T10:57:00.000-05:00Amy,I haven't heard from Arminius yet, and I reall...Amy,<BR/><BR/>I haven't heard from Arminius yet, and I really don't expect to. I'm not as concerned about an apology as an explanation. I looked over all of his or her posts that I could find, and I don't see anything disturbing. A few of them sound a little immature, but other than that s/he seems to share the same desire for peace that I have. It doesn't make sense to me.<BR/><BR/>Arminius clearly has studied a lot of theology, but I have to wonder how good a handle this person has on the basic truths of the Bible, for example Ephesians 4:25.<BR/><BR/><B>Therefore, laying aside falsehood, SPEAK TRUTH EACH ONE of you WITH HIS NEIGHBOR, for we are members of one another.<BR/></B>solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-77649404176469237072007-04-13T10:47:00.000-05:002007-04-13T10:47:00.000-05:00junk99,Thank you for your kind words. They are cer...junk99,<BR/><BR/>Thank you for your kind words. They are certainly in short supply these days, and lately it's hard to tell the real thing from some phony baloney.<BR/><BR/>'Pearls before swine' are the words of Jesus, and they are not a putdown. It's simply a way of saying not to offer something of great value to someone who can't benefit from it. It could be something as simple as an encouraging word, or (apparently) someone's presence at a business meeting.<BR/><BR/>All analogies break down if pushed too far. A good example is the 'Hezbollah' comment. What Gaines said was that Mr. Sharp's throwing everything but the kitchen sink at him was like Hezbollah firing rockets at random into Israel, hoping to hit something. He didn't say "Mark, you're bad! You're as bad as HEZBOLLAH!!!"<BR/><BR/>It really wasn't a bad analogy. Of course, it was taken down to the personal level. <BR/><BR/>That whole episode illustrates the problem with Steve Gaines. He is unable to take responsibility for his mistakes. He didn't mean what he said in an ugly way, but offense was taken. His 'apology' went something like this: 'I shouldn't have called you Hezbollah. You're obviously not a middle eastern terrorist group.'<BR/><BR/>Maybe I'm just nit picking, but I don't see an apology there at all. No, Mark isn't a middle eastern terrorist group, but he is a man who was offended and deserved an apology. <BR/><BR/>Maybe SG just has a different way of apologizing than I do. I would have said something like 'Mark, I realize from your reaction that my comment was offensive to you. It was a bad comment, and I apologize. Please forgive me.'<BR/><BR/>That's just me, though.solomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-47199616139981016852007-04-13T10:34:00.000-05:002007-04-13T10:34:00.000-05:00Solomon,Have you received an apology and/or explan...Solomon,<BR/>Have you received an apology and/or explanation (not that any would really suffice) why Arminius<BR/>would post what he did over there? <BR/><BR/>I am glad you mentiond that you can put your mouse over the name and see the numbers. There have been several times I didn't think someone sounded like themselves and I remember someone posting as SOTL that was clearly not her, and she called them out for it. <BR/>I am sorry you and Faith and Hope were taken advantage of like that. No excuse IMHO.Amyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16166259185845126345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-19988931616697771952007-04-12T22:42:00.000-05:002007-04-12T22:42:00.000-05:00Keith,I appreciate your advice and concern. As I h...Keith,<BR/>I appreciate your advice and concern. As I have been in agreement with many of the concerns raised there, I have friendly relationships with most of the regulars. So I don't think I'd be attacked. But even if so, it would be ok ... I've been jumped on in my life before, sometimes deserved and sometimes not.<BR/><BR/>I'm sorry for your negative experiences there. It can be frustrating (and painful) when you share your perspective and try to exhort others and get smacked around for it. But even when I disagree with (or feel I am being mistreated by) fellow believers in Christ, I don't consider them swine. Nor do I consider my own opinions pearls.<BR/><BR/>Sure, I get annoyed when people say or do things they shouldn't, especially when I'm the brunt of an attack, or when someone I care about is. And when someone says or does something I find particularly stupid or wrong-headed, I am tempted to lash out at them. Sometimes I follow that temptation and get "snarky", or worse. I've ready plenty on that blog (and this one, and others) that get me "sorely vexed", from people on all sides of the issues. My desire and goal is to respond with the same grace and understanding that I'd prefer to receive if someone was upset with me.<BR/><BR/>Be blessed, brother.Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-83701188289016474632007-04-12T22:01:00.000-05:002007-04-12T22:01:00.000-05:00junk,After the beating I received for seeking unit...junk,<BR/><BR/>After the beating I received for seeking unity, I'd advise you <B>NOT</B> to post on the NBBCOF. <BR/><BR/>Disharmony is a sure sign of human rights taking precedence over God's preeminence. When human rights are violated, expect anger.<BR/><BR/>There is no hope of harmony over there. They won't rest until the pews at Bellevue are empty, and every last brick is thrown down, so to speak. (Just look at the gloating that's going on because Mrs. Rogers was reportedly at GBC Wednesday night.)<BR/><BR/>Don't try to reason with them. I have, and I've received beating after beating. I should have known better after my first attempt to reach out to them. We used to pray for SOTL (and others) on Thursday nights, and I sincerely tried to give her some encouragement once:<BR/><BR/><I>sickofthelies said...<BR/>Sweet Cakes<BR/>Thank you for caring. The problem with going to another church and finding " real Christians" would mean that I would still be setting myself up for more abuse from the pharisees.<BR/>I just can't take it anymore. I can't do it.<BR/><BR/>solomon said...<BR/>Stephanie,<BR/>Jesus said to never, ever give to dogs that which is sacred, or to cast your pearls before swine. You'll only bring more pain into your life if you do.<BR/>Moreover, don't put your light under a bushel. Let it shine so that men may see and glorify God.<BR/>Grace and peace.<BR/>9:44 PM, March 08, 2007<BR/><BR/>gmommylv said...<BR/>Solomon's 9:44 post makes me sick.<BR/>(trying to keep the blood pressure down so no elaboration)</I><BR/><BR/>A wise man learns from experience. A <B>wiser</B> man learns from the experiences of others.<BR/><BR/>Junk, be wise. Learn from my experience with the NBBCOF. <BR/><BR/>It seems like we've heard this a lot lately, but don't 'cast your pearls before swine.'<BR/><BR/>Keithsolomonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16233693177785852232noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-29183831602378135042007-04-12T17:43:00.000-05:002007-04-12T17:43:00.000-05:00Interesting ... savingbellevue.com removed the lin...Interesting ... <BR/><BR/>savingbellevue.com removed the link to the NBBCOF blog because the blog was just gossip (according to the original sermon link on savingbellevue associated with the notice that the blog would no longer be linked there).<BR/><BR/>Now we hear that Mr. Haywood has disassociated himself from IDC and formed ACT (which I noticed does have the same ownership as savingbellevue). And we also hear that Mr. Coggins is no longer part of IDC.<BR/><BR/>Not to minimize the concerns of my friends on NBBCOF, nor to imply anything negative about those who have such concerns ... but I have to admit that it is all to easy to take separatism to extremes, so that the separatists start separating from each other. That is one of the reasons we have so many denominations already, especially so many Baptist denominations. <BR/><BR/>Separatism has long been a key Baptist distinctive and defining characteristic. And, of course, the idea of "being separate" from the world is biblical, and it is also biblical that there is a point at which those who claim to be Christians are so close to the world in their views and behavior, that it is necessary to be separate from them, as well. But the problem is determining what that point is ... which behaviors, which views, which doctrines are so bad as to make separation necessary? <BR/><BR/>The Bible is plain on this when it comes to those involved in blatant immorality -- but what of those who do not live immorally, but are tolerant of those who do? Likewise, the Bible is clear that we are to be separate from those espousing heretical views on essential Christian doctrines (the fundamentals of the faith espoused in the earliest Christian creeds). But are we also to separate from those whose doctrines are not quite that bad, but who in turn associate with or quote or do not condemn others who DO have heretical teachings? <BR/><BR/>Where is the line? <BR/><BR/>History and human nature show that there are always those who are too quick to separate, who draw the line too quickly, and those who are too slow to separate, who draw hardly any lines at all. <BR/><BR/>The "easy" answer is that the line is to be drawn with the truth of scripture, because all unity is based on and requires truth. The problem, though, is whose interpretation of scripture? Sure, there are some things that are so plain in scripture that pretty much everyone can agree on. The hard part is with those things that must be inferred, or which involve application more than one scriptural principle at a time. Based on their interpretation of scripture, the churches of Christ separate from churches that have musical instruments (even churches that believe pretty much everything else the same as they do, such as the independent Christian churches). Pentecostals are separate from those who do not believe that tongues-speaking is a valid spiritual gift for today. The Baptists separate from those who do practice infant baptism. And all of these base their separations on their understanding of the "plain truth of the Bible". The point here being that the "easy" answer of unity based on the truth of the Bible, which is absolute truth, can involve our frail, human, subjective interpretations of that absolute truth.<BR/><BR/>My conclusions? I have none. No answers here, just observations...<BR/><BR/>"Junk"<BR/><BR/>P.S. Now...should I also post this on the NBBCOF?Junksterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14422651080120306816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-17607951547840789492007-04-12T15:28:00.000-05:002007-04-12T15:28:00.000-05:00I don't know what "dissention" is. Jim Haywood and...I don't know what "dissention" is. <BR/><BR/>Jim Haywood and Tim can speak for themselves. I'm not a member of either group so I don't know the details. The story is Jim and others favor a more forceful approach than IDC. <BR/><BR/>No, I don't have third hand information. You don't know a thing about me, so don't make assumptions. I know what I know. I recommended Dr. Spradlin because you have previously indicated he is a friend. I thought he might be able to easily substantiate this informaiton for you.Proverbs 12:22https://www.blogger.com/profile/02453593870439654243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-85125935112170752352007-04-12T15:01:00.000-05:002007-04-12T15:01:00.000-05:00Proverbs 12:22 said... Mike,Please call Dr. Spradl...<I>Proverbs 12:22 said... <BR/>Mike,<BR/><BR/>Please call Dr. Spradlin and ask him, the pastor admitted the plan to stop the meeting to him. Please call David Coombs, he has admitted the plan to stop the meeting to multiple people. </I><BR/><BR/>So, you have second- and third-hand information? Not surprising. However, I'll take the invitation to call my friend Mike Spradlin as I have the opportunity.<BR/><BR/><I>Yes, I know of what I speak with regards to Jim Haywood and Tim Coggins. Tim resigned weeks back and Jim Haywood quit altogether and formed his own new group--A.C.T. </I><BR/><BR/>Am I to understand there's dissention within the dissention? <BR/><BR/>Again, not surprising, if true.<BR/><BR/>--MikeMike Brattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-52664064104602401162007-04-12T14:26:00.000-05:002007-04-12T14:26:00.000-05:00Mike,Please call Dr. Spradlin and ask him, the pas...Mike,<BR/><BR/>Please call Dr. Spradlin and ask him, the pastor admitted the plan to stop the meeting to him. Please call David Coombs, he has admitted the plan to stop the meeting to multiple people. <BR/><BR/>Yes, I know of what I speak with regards to Jim Haywood and Tim Coggins. Tim resigned weeks back and Jim Haywood quit altogether and formed his own new group--A.C.T.Proverbs 12:22https://www.blogger.com/profile/02453593870439654243noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-77875798141889317572007-04-12T13:55:00.000-05:002007-04-12T13:55:00.000-05:00michelle mann said... Just wanted to take a second...<I>michelle mann said... <BR/>Just wanted to take a second to say HEY to my big brother! Have a good day! </I><BR/><BR/>You too, baby sis. Nice of you to stop by!<BR/><BR/>--MikeMike Brattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-45535208162345860332007-04-12T13:52:00.000-05:002007-04-12T13:52:00.000-05:00Proverbs 12:22 said... Haywood hates IDC!And your ...<I>Proverbs 12:22 said... <BR/>Haywood hates IDC!</I><BR/><BR/>And your source for such information is?<BR/><BR/><I>Coggins is no longer involved with IDC. </I><BR/><BR/>And your source for such information is?<BR/><BR/><I>You saying something doesn't make it true. </I><BR/><BR/>Working with established facts does, however, unless the parameters of their association have demonstrably changed. Seeing as how you're contesting the established facts, whoever you are, without a shred of substance to back it up--much less the heft and reputation that could accompany your real name--perhaps you should've taken your own words to heart before you published them?<BR/><BR/><I>You do realize both the pastor and Coombs are admitting they planned to stop the meeting as they did. The pastor has admitted it had to be stopped when they saw Chris Williams approaching. The minority never had a fair chance to be heard. </I><BR/><BR/>My apologies for being out of town, but has anyone admitted anything of that nature?<BR/><BR/>And the sliver of a fraction of a "minority" had more than a fair opportunity to be heard. As has been noted, they blew it.<BR/><BR/>--MikeMike Brattonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13145152348285384619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-63856500438480283262007-04-12T13:14:00.000-05:002007-04-12T13:14:00.000-05:00Bless his heart, I really think it is in the right...Bless his heart, I really think it is in the right place, and I do applaud him for putting something positive out there. <BR/><BR/>But please listen to the "pull your pants up" rap song.Jessicahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01867337846220103344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-49680731372962099772007-04-12T12:59:00.000-05:002007-04-12T12:59:00.000-05:00And remeber this, kiddos!!!YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR ...And remeber this, kiddos!!!<BR/><BR/>YOU DON'T HAVE TO WEAR A THONG TO HAVE IT GOING ON !<BR/><BR/><BR/>And yes, I know... well, I assume, that he's sincere... <BR/><BR/>but it's still funny.SpringerSpanielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04938621793399675364noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33993370.post-16743459715180289832007-04-12T12:58:00.000-05:002007-04-12T12:58:00.000-05:00Just wanted to take a second to say HEY to my big ...Just wanted to take a second to say HEY to my big brother! Have a good day!Michelle Mannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09291197133792923432noreply@blogger.com